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black fadingweirdo - 2005-11-10 09:30:34 Uhr
hey guys! (and gals!)
Im getting a tattoo soon ( 2 months ) and so im really scoping places out and what not.. and ive been checking out others peoples tattoos (as they come in to my work etc...).. But alot of the black tattoos ive seen.. the black is almost.. green! (wow that rhymed)... but yea.. is this normal? if yes how long does it take to fade? or is this just poorely done?? Any help would be great.. thanks:)
Re: black fadingRaftiInstitute - 2005-11-10 19:52:30 Uhr
Assuming that the tattoo was not placed too deeply into the skin (which causes rapid migration) my best guess is that the problem is the ink used. The problem of black turning blue/green and turning from sharp to smoky was more common years ago than it is today, the two main reasons for this were that tattooing was done deeper back then in the mistaken assumption that the tattoo would last longer, and they were using black ink, rarely black pigment.
There is a difference between inks and pigments that needs to be explained at this point; inks are composed of a coloring agent (or agents) that are dissolved into the carrying liquid, pigments on the other hand do not dissolve. The problem with ink in a tattoo is that the skin cells can’t hold onto the ink color as well as it can small colored particles that don’t dissolve into water (and people are mostly water). If you look carefully you’ll see a lot of tattooists use black ink for outlines and pigment based colors, I only use pigment for outlines and have not seen any discoloration or fading. I use Eunju Kang Black #1 (from Unimax), although any commercially available pigment based black should be fine.
“Pigment stays where you put it.” –Unimax (they show a 14 year old tattoo as proof)
I’ve been told that the best quality black pigment is actually made from soot collected from an inverted funnel held over a pile of burning rubber, it’s very resistant to fading and won’t migrate easily- but don’t go making your own pigment, it’s not worth the risk.
The disadvantage of using pigments is that they need to be shaken up every time you use them as the color settles to the bottom quickly, but I think it’s worth the extra effort if that means a crisp outline that lasts.
Re: black fadingbackwoods - 2006-02-28 12:02:42 Uhr
hey........... raftilnstitute explained the regular ink vrs pigmented ink very well. something he didn't mention is, the sun is a tats worst enemy. the sun will fade a tat over a period of time no matter what ink is used,but pigmanted holds up better for a longer period of time.i have a reeper on my right forearm that was done in 1992. pigmented ink was used. ( i don't know what kind.), but the black is still black even now and i'm the worlds worst at being out in the sun.i also have a reeper on my arm that was done around 1985 or 86 ( don't remember ) it was red with the out line being black. over the years the red has just almost faded completly away and the black has started to turn. so what i'm saying is..... it depends on how much a person is exposed to the sun and the quality of the ink used in the tat.when you go get your tat aks if they use pigmented ink.:-) happy tatttooing
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